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February 12, 2010

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Craig Westover

Some food for thought: Here are the 2010 estimates for per capita debit for the states Matt has selected:


Alabama 116
Tennessee 161
South Carolina 162
Mississippi 163
Kentucky 192
Florida 316

Maryland 337
Pennsylvania 386
Wisconsin 569
Minnesota 613
Massachusetts 769
New York 918
Conecticut 1,171

Source:Center on Budget and Policy

I looked at other rankings and actual data for previous years (per capita debt was generally higher) and all the rankings were about the same -- in all cases low tax states had lower debt than high tax states.

High tax/high service states have become high tax/declining service/high deficit states.

Unemployment is the natural consequence of a sluggish economy; high deficits are man-made problems that result from high-tax make work projects that produce no wealth.

Charlie Quimby

Craig doesn't link to his data source, so I'll just accept his numbers for the states. It's not as easy to accept his conclusion, however, because he uses debt per capita instead of debt per dollar of income as his yardstick with which to beat higher tax states.

We go around and around with this on taxes all the time. But the distinction between per-capita debt and debt-to-income ratio should be clear — and why the distinction matters should be obvious.

While I agree that increased indebtedness is not a healthy direction for state finances, Craig's comparison overlooks this fact: well-paid people tend to owe more dollars than poor people, and this is not just a feature of government. They buy more and have more capacity to repay, so lenders extend more credit.

In general, the high-debt states are all higher-income states and the low-debt states have lower average incomes.

Craig Westover

Charlie --

sorry for being sloppy; I was in a hurry. Here is the link to the data table I referenced.

http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/datasets/317749485f6311deaf0b000255111976/versions/1

The absolute value of these numbers is not as important as the rank, which was relatively consistent across a number of data sets.

The per-capita debt I am referring to is the per-capita state budget deficit. In other words, in Minnesota to pay off the estimated 2010 budget deficit would cost each taxpayer in Minnesota $613. In Florida, a low tax state (which has a higher total deficit but larger tax base), the per capita deficit is $316.

I see where you might be confused, and I apologize. The fault is mine for not being more precise. given that, nonetheless my correlation has as validity.

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